An Eruv is
I'm asking here because an Eruv seems against the spirit of OpenStreetMaps in my neighborhood there is a gigantic area called "Meyerland Minyan Eruv". You can read more about it on their webpage, * http://www.meyerlandminyan.org/eruv.html Note, on that webpage,
This is ONLY an argument against the un-walled version. I'll cite the same logic in Does parcel data belong in OSM? ,
All of that applies to an Eruv.
A few things to consider that make it worse in my opinion,
Proposal: DeletionThere are four of these on OSM,
Second ProposalI can't see an area with
asked 22 Aug '22, 03:09 Evan Carroll |
This is a valid concern but you have chosen the wrong venue for finding a solution. This Q&A site is for finding the "one best answer" to something, not for nuanced discussions of complex issues. Please head over to the tagging mailing list (lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging) to resolve this issue. answered 22 Aug '22, 09:16 Frederik Ramm ♦ Had no idea, seemed like this was a good place to ask if we could delete something. I'll take it there.
(22 Aug '22, 17:59)
Evan Carroll
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At least one of the London eruvs has some clearly mappable infrastructure, as a planning application was made to install it. However, I doubt if the entire boundaries meet practical repeatable observable criteria that underpins OSM (note that although not marked on the ground, ordinary admin boundaries often have decent enough observable clues as to their extent). answered 22 Aug '22, 10:31 SK53 ♦ If one of these is using otherwise mappable infrastructure and is signposted somewhere it seems like it could be verifiable enough. Things like fences walls and power lines (not sure about phone) all get mapped so if they are all scooped up into a religious boundary or multipolygons based on public signs?
(22 Aug '22, 14:09)
InsertUser
@InsertUser: I think mostly the specific infrastructure is designed to be as unobtrusive as possible. It's also prone to break in which case it behaves like OSM coastlines & the eruv is flooded and unusable.
(23 Aug '22, 10:15)
SK53 ♦
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Just a casual comment, but I live within a NW London Eruv and am aware that I do, living in a area with a large Jewish population. It's not mapped on OSM though. As mapping information, personally I would find it fairly interesting, if non essential. I'm not aware of other religions with similar constructs, so it's not as if OSM would end up being swamped with religious boundaries answered 24 Aug '22, 14:37 Mikey Co Berrely has mapped one of the eruvs in LB Camden, South Hampstead, including tracking down the infrastructure, so it looks as though it can be done. See https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-August/065205.html
(24 Aug '22, 21:31)
SK53 ♦
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You mention boundary=religious, but not boundary=religious_administration which might be a better fit, I'm not sure. This has more than 7000 uses, concentrated in Poland, and is documented mainly on the Polish language wiki. An even more localised possible analogy is boundary=rc_parish, for Roman Catholic Parish, used over 200 times in Ireland.