In Germany, many (catholic or protestant) church parishes have a so-called "Gemeindehaus" or "Gemeindezentrum" (literally: parish hall). As a building, it looks like a meeting hall (and not like a typical church). Inside, it usually contains church offices, and various rooms where the parish activities (meetings etc.) can take place. Often, but not always, church services are also held in the Gemeindehaus. However, most parishes also have a "real" church (often right next to the Gemeindehaus), with the typical building features of a church. How should I tag such a building? I think Is there a tag for this? Even the German tag page for "place of worship" does not address this. asked 08 Apr '12, 19:40 sleske |
There are 19 examples of amenity=parish_hall in OSM - to me, that sounds about right for what you describe. EDIT: And depending on what the building looks like and how it is described, amenity=church_hall (mentioned below) might be even better. answered 09 Apr '12, 20:37 SomeoneElse ♦ Interesting idea. However, I don't think this will work, as many Gemeindehäuser are also used for church services, so they are definitely
(10 Apr '12, 12:48)
sleske
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Well, probably the most common way to have multiple values for a tag is to separate them with a semicolon. This doesn't mean that it'll render (which of course amenity=parish_hall is unlikely to anyway), or that data consumers will necessarily handle it. However, personally I'd ask the question "is this place mostly a parish hall or mostly a place of worship?" and pick the most appropriate one. If it's mostly a place of worship, I'd tag it as that; if it's not, I wouldn't.
(11 Apr '12, 00:12)
SomeoneElse ♦
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Note there is also 80 uses of
(11 Apr '12, 01:17)
Vclaw
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I agree with vclaw and others that church_hall is better than parish_hall; I put together a feature proposal over on the wiki to centralise discussion about this. Your description of a Gemeindehaus matches perfectly my experience of parish halls and church halls in the US---not all denominations tend to use them, but they're pretty common. If you could put your experience and examples of Gemeindehäuser over at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Church_hall that'd be cool. :)
(04 Dec '12, 04:55)
blahedo
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If there is no service going on in the facility, it is not an That prevents further key fragmentation, is religion-neutral for the high-level key, and answered 06 Oct '15, 18:13 P24 Church Halls are not necessarily community centres as I would understand them; although some do have a community centre function, in which case they tend to describe themselves as such. Our local church hall is used for parish functions & otherwise is rented out for a variety of uses, but mainly for income to support the church.
(07 Oct '15, 10:16)
SK53 ♦
Sounds like a clear case of
(07 Oct '15, 11:49)
P24
But not actually to community groups unless they guarantee to rent it weekly!
(07 Oct '15, 16:06)
SK53 ♦
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I'd go for the "main use" approach: if it's essentially a civic hall that just happens to be used for worship (i.e. it's not the actual parish church), then it's Remember also that "secondary" uses can be usefully covered by using a descriptive answered 10 Apr '12, 15:34 Circeus 1
"if it's essentially a civic hall that just happens to be used for worship [...] then it's amenity=parish_hall." That seems wrong to me - "parish hall" is only used for halls run by a religious community. If it's a general civic hall, that's amenity=community_centre.
(12 Apr '12, 10:35)
sleske
You write yourself: "Often, but not always, church services are also held in the Gemeindehaus.", if there are no religious services, then CLEARLY
(12 Apr '12, 15:47)
Circeus
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