Hi, I'm using GraphHopper in an application which helps suggest running routes for people. I'm seeing cases where routes are being suggested that use unsuitable/unsafe roads. For example: **West Powell Road, Ohio** This road and bridge has no sidewalk and always has heavy traffic on it. - [OSM][1] - [Street View][2] <s>[Street View][2]</s> - [GraphHopper][3] - shows pedestrians being routed over this bridge **12th Street Bridge, Ohio River** You definitely don't want to be walking over this! - [OSM][4] - [Street View][5] <s>[Street View][5]</s> - [GraphHopper][6] I strongly suspect that this is just going to be down to poor OSM tag data for these roads. It seems quite common on many US roads. My questions are: 1. Is my assumption correct that this is just down to tagging? 2. What would be the correct tag to apply to these roads? foot=no? sidewalk=none? 3. Is there a reasonable heuristic I can use as a workaround? e.g. Avoid any primary/trunk/motorways for foot unless explicitly tagged with foot=<acceptable values> or sidewalk=<acceptablevalues> Thanks, Sam [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37058434#map=17/40.15508/-83.04160 [2]: https://goo.gl/maps/9PjmwhTKFjx4vupj6 [3]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=40.156975%2C-83.0469&point=40.156847%2C-83.04383&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale [4]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16101779 [5]: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4839712,-82.6402417,3a,75y,20.86h,83.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D149.80447%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 [6]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=38.480657%2C-82.642604&point=38.486317%2C-82.63855&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale

Hi, I'm using GraphHopper in an application which helps suggest running routes for people. I'm seeing cases where routes are being suggested that use unsuitable/unsafe roads. For example: *West **West Powell Road, Ohio* Ohio** This road and bridge has no sidewalk and always has heavy traffic on it. - [OSM][1] - [Street View][2] - [GraphHopper][3] - shows pedestrians being routed over this bridge * 12th **12th Street Bridge, Ohio River* River** You definitely don't want to be walking over this! - [OSM][4] - [Street View][5] - [GraphHopper][6] I strongly suspect that this is just going to be down to poor OSM tag data for these roads. It seems quite common on many US roads. My questions are: 1. Is my assumption correct that this is just down to tagging? 2. What would be the correct tag to apply to these roads? foot=no? sidewalk=none? 3. Is there a reasonable heuristic I can use as a workaround? e.g. Avoid any primary/trunk/motorways for foot unless explicitly tagged with foot=<acceptable values> or sidewalk=<acceptablevalues> Thanks, Sam [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37058434#map=17/40.15508/-83.04160 [2]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568517,-83.0451854,3a,75y,284.98h,80.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.42312%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 https://goo.gl/maps/9PjmwhTKFjx4vupj6 [3]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=40.156975%2C-83.0469&point=40.156847%2C-83.04383&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale [4]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16101779 [5]: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4839712,-82.6402417,3a,75y,20.86h,83.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D149.80447%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 [6]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=38.480657%2C-82.642604&point=38.486317%2C-82.63855&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale

Hi, I'm using GraphHopper in an application which helps suggest running routes for people. I'm seeing cases where routes are being suggested that use unsuitable/unsafe roads. For example: *West Powell Road, Ohio* This road and bridge has no sidewalk and always has heavy traffic on it. - [OSM][1] - [Street View][2] - [GraphHopper][3] - shows pedestrians being routed over this bridge * 12th Street Bridge, Ohio River* You definitely don't want to be walking over this! - [OSM][4] - [Street View][5] - [GraphHopper][6] I strongly suspect that this is just going to be down to poor OSM tag data for these roads. It seems quite common on many US roads. My questions are: 1) 1. Is my assumption correct that this is just down to tagging? 2) 2. What would be the correct tag to apply to these roads? foot=no? sidewalk=none? 2) 3. Is there a reasonable heuristic I can use as a workaround? e.g. Avoid any primary/trunk/motorways for foot unless explicitly tagged with foot=<acceptable values> or sidewalk=<acceptablevalues> Thanks, Sam [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37058434#map=17/40.15508/-83.04160 [2]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568517,-83.0451854,3a,75y,284.98h,80.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.42312%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 [3]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=40.156975%2C-83.0469&point=40.156847%2C-83.04383&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale [4]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16101779 [5]: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4839712,-82.6402417,3a,75y,20.86h,83.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D149.80447%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 [6]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=38.480657%2C-82.642604&point=38.486317%2C-82.63855&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale

Hi, I'm using GraphHopper in an application which helps suggest running routes for people. I'm seeing cases where routes are being suggested that use unsuitable/unsafe roads. For example: *West Powell Road, Ohio* This road and bridge has no sidewalk and always has heavy traffic on it. - OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37058434#map=17/40.15508/-83.04160 - Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568517,-83.0451854,3a,75y,284.98h,80.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.42312%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 - GraphHopper: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=40.156975%2C-83.0469&point=40.156847%2C-83.04383&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale [OSM][1] - [Street View][2] - [GraphHopper][3] - shows pedestrians being routed over this bridge * 12th Street Bridge, Ohio River* You definitely don't want to be walking over this! - OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16101779 - Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4839712,-82.6402417,3a,75y,20.86h,83.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D149.80447%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 - GraphHopper: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=38.480657%2C-82.642604&point=38.486317%2C-82.63855&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale [OSM][4] - [Street View][5] - [GraphHopper][6] I strongly suspect that this is just going to be down to poor OSM tag data for these roads. It seems quite common on many US roads. My questions are: 1) Is my assumption correct that this is just down to tagging? 2) What would be the correct tag to apply to these roads? foot=no? sidewalk=none? 2) Is there a reasonable heuristic I can use as a workaround? e.g. Avoid any primary/trunk/motorways for foot unless explicitly tagged with foot=<acceptable values> or sidewalk=<acceptablevalues> Thanks, SamSam [1]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37058434#map=17/40.15508/-83.04160 [2]: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568517,-83.0451854,3a,75y,284.98h,80.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.42312%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 [3]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=40.156975%2C-83.0469&point=40.156847%2C-83.04383&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale [4]: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16101779 [5]: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4839712,-82.6402417,3a,75y,20.86h,83.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D149.80447%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 [6]: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=38.480657%2C-82.642604&point=38.486317%2C-82.63855&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale

Hi, I'm using GraphHopper in an application which helps suggest running routes for people. I'm seeing cases where routes are being suggested that use unsuitable/unsafe roads. For example: *West Powell Road, Ohio* This road and bridge has no sidewalk and always has heavy traffic on it. - OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37058434#map=17/40.15508/-83.04160 - Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1568517,-83.0451854,3a,75y,284.98h,80.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DjnXleCS-k9-rjhsNNrsHXg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.42312%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 - GraphHopper: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=40.156975%2C-83.0469&point=40.156847%2C-83.04383&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale * 12th Street Bridge, Ohio River* You definitely don't want to be walking over this! - OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/16101779 - Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4839712,-82.6402417,3a,75y,20.86h,83.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNMLnT8R374AaL7xSrszAtA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D149.80447%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 - GraphHopper: https://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=38.480657%2C-82.642604&point=38.486317%2C-82.63855&locale=en-GB&vehicle=foot&weighting=fastest&elevation=true&use_miles=false&layer=Omniscale I strongly suspect that this is just going to be down to poor OSM tag data for these roads. It seems quite common on many US roads. My questions are: 1) Is my assumption correct that this is just down to tagging? 2) What would be the correct tag to apply to these roads? foot=no? sidewalk=none? 2) Is there a reasonable heuristic I can use as a workaround? e.g. Avoid any primary/trunk/motorways for foot unless explicitly tagged with foot=<acceptable values> or sidewalk=<acceptablevalues> Thanks, Sam