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Hi, can one explain why here https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_foot&route=57.32642%2C-2.83276%3B57.32609%2C-2.83762#map=16/57.3284/-2.8349 not the short direct route on the red-dotted footpath is used? I added this path two days ago (I'm relatively new to OSM). I also read this suggested post https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/7015/tagging-public-footpaths-for-routing and tried to find out which data is used by the "Foot (OSRM)" and "Foot (GraphHopper)" route planners. From what I understood the planners don't necessarily know the current state of OSM, but I did not find an easy way to determine which version of OSM data is used in these route planners. Where can I see this? Thank you & Best regards |
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For OSRM, it should be daily updates, for the FOSSGIS sponsored routing server. You can even find timestamps on this page. 1
Hi @H_mlet, thank you, I can see the date in http://map.project-osrm.org/timestamps/footeuasi.data_timestamp It's more than two days since the last update (2021-05-03T08:00:00Z ) and this explains my issue. Also, GraphHopper is now using my foot path for foot only, which is what I wanted. I wasn't sure my edit was correct, but now I am.
(05 May '21, 13:00)
BlaMa
There have been a few hiccups with the FOSSGIS OSRM server over recent days which the server admin is working to sort out, I believe.
(06 May '21, 19:25)
Richard ♦
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Answering @andy-mackey 's questions:
It's working for me using GraphHopper now (see my answer to @H_mlet). When I made the post, OSRM just did not use my path, but worked in general. I use the openstreetmap in-browser editor to edit and added foot=yes, see this picture:
Thanks everyone. Andy
(06 May '21, 23:45)
andy mackey
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What you see there under Allowed Access are implicit access rules, iD assumes. Maybe it uses the access defaults tor that, but I am not sure. Notice that the values are shown in a light grey. The actual tags that you mapped are the ones on the bottom. In your case there are only By the way: OSRM is working again and routing via that way (even without any
(07 May '21, 09:18)
TZorn
Thanks TZorn fro spotting that.
(07 May '21, 19:30)
andy mackey
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I think path needs an additional tag such as allowed or designated. The router doesn't route on private path or track. Check with local government somehow for status. Best to do a survey or walk it and read the official signage and use your GPS trace a camera, dicta phone or notes when surveying for later mapping a path or track. 2
I don't agree. If no access tags for a path are given the router should either default to access=yes at least for non-motorized traffic or use the proposed default rules. I'd say paths mapped without access tags are pretty common.
(06 May '21, 14:48)
TZorn
You may be correct, Scotland has a right to roam. Which would suggest you can walk anywhere (almost). # In the UK I have found the routers that didn't work for me did after i added designated or allowed to the paths but i was never quite sure because updating OSM used to have a bigger delay on OSRM and Graphhopper. Confirmation from other mappers and users of footpaths well be useful.
(06 May '21, 15:26)
andy mackey
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All the routers I've used default to foot=yes on paths without access tags...
(06 May '21, 15:52)
H_mlet
Thanks TZorn and H_mlet. Ways i mapped with P2 as foot or bridleway didn't automatically get a foot=yes tag I have just add one here. and it should work soon. https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_foot&route=52.34107%2C-0.34661%3B52.33250%2C-0.34756#map=15/52.3357/-0.3401
(06 May '21, 16:12)
andy mackey
If you look under the advanced tag on BlaMa's path it doesn't have foot=yes . I guess foot=yes needs adding as well. Potlatch doesn't add automatically if you select footpath i haven't check if JOSM and iD do. The path shows on the map BUT may not route without foot=yes being added. Feed back welcomed.
(06 May '21, 16:31)
andy mackey
I couldn't see what editor had been used by BlaMa, i have forgotten how to get that info.
(06 May '21, 16:33)
andy mackey
Hi all, thanks for chiming in. I'll add a comment with picture to the main thread. It's working for me using GraphHopper now (see my answer to @H_mlet). When I made the post, OSRM just did not use my path, but worked in general. I use the openstreetmap in-browser editor to edit.
(06 May '21, 18:46)
BlaMa
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Andy, what H_mlet and I are trying to say is that BlaMa does NOT need to ad a As I commented on the question: Currently, I cannot calculate any route with OSRM anywhere. So unless it's different for you it's a bit futile to try/guess around now why it does not route over this one path.
(06 May '21, 18:57)
TZorn
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In reality, that's a very foolhardy assumption for bikes. Many mappers use highway=path for paths without any right of access for bikes.
(06 May '21, 19:25)
Richard ♦
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Routing servers don't update as fast as Mapnik tile server. I guess it's because updating vector DB is more cumbersome than raster one. If you are in a hurry, try telegram bot @RoutinoBot In a few secs, it will update routing around geocoordinate you'll attach (area approx 2 square mile) |
OSRM on www.openstreetmap.org does not find any route anywhere currently. There seems to be some general problem with the engine not with your path.