some benches are between 5 & 10 meters long eexample: https://flic.kr/p/fcCtQN https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/59.58337/11.16438

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It could be clearer on the wiki page, but you can map them as ways. See the discussion.

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answered 26 Mar, 02:57

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Sorry if I wasn't clear, I'm speaking of benches, a lot of them are mapped as ways. No problem, as long as you can see them on imagery, I guess.

Have a look at Europe's longest bench : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/313487068 (not rendered though, such a pity ;) ).

For steps I've seen the debate few times, but no consensus yet. I guess areas is the only solution, but routers won't like it (like for pedestrian plaza).

(30 Mar, 17:19) H_mlet
  1. There are quite a few instances of amenity=bench + highway=steps. When mapping the line, you should treat it as a staircase, align it along the incline, and add the incline= (mostly =yes or =no). step_count= would be very helpful here. While the direction of a bench line is usually parallel to seating, highway=steps should suffice to indicate otherwise.
  2. There has been proposals about mapping wide stairs (but not as your example) as areas. No solid result.
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I find strange to tag the same thing for walking and for sitting... (I have no problem sitting on stairs, that's not my point)

For me on the image, the long stone "shelves", are stairs only. They are too small to be benches (or bleachers?).

I thought the question was about the long wooden thing, behind the statue, which I would call a bench.

My two cents.

(26 Mar, 17:25) H_mlet

This depends on whether the "and" in "long/wide benches & wide stairs" is together and separating. Nevertheless, he mentioned "some benches are between 5 & 10 meters long".

About the stairs, problem with leisure=bleachers would be that it includes more than stair-shaped seating. The most common original meaning of bleachers seems to be those ladder-looking stands not necessarily able to walked over as stairs. See 1st photo and 2nd row of Tag:leisure=bleachers#Examples.

Stairs designed to be sat on are often referred to as benches, and there are really many meanings to a "bench".

It seems reasonable to tag a stair that is intended to be sat on as a bench as well.

(27 Mar, 04:21) Kovoschiz

the wooden thing at the top is seating, the rest are stairs.

(29 Mar, 12:36) mtbboy1993

these are definitely not bleachers but actual stairs in a city plaza

(29 Mar, 12:36) mtbboy1993

I of course don't want to tag both as one object, am just wondering about these who as objects, I am wondering how to tag the long bench, map,tag the stairs. I have seen many people sit on these stairs, but really they are stairs.

(29 Mar, 12:39) mtbboy1993

Hi what about using capacity=1or100 and or bench:length=.. m ?

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answered 30 Mar, 16:43

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Because it's not documented or used anywhere ?

Actually capacity is used, but it's complicated to determine IMHO.

For length, I don't see the point, we use a geographical database where distances are stored as different nodes linked by ways.

(30 Mar, 17:08) H_mlet
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