One way to do it is probably to mark it as an address with no business information. Or I can name it, but put in parentheses the status (not open yet or closed down). I could also leave a note for someone to update this information later. Another route for if it's not yet open would be to just leave this data out and I (or someone else) will need to add it later when it's open. What I'd like to do is use construction=yes, but I assume it'll still show up on the map and be confusing to people who don't know it's not open. Please advise on the best path to take. If it's shut down but all the business markings are still there, I assume we just leave out/remove this data right? asked 25 Jan '19, 01:25 Pluto is a P... |
P.S. If the POI is not just closed down, but also in a very bad shape (e.g. windows/walls falling down), consider using P.P.S. If the entire block or building got torn down, then you can just remove all information/sub-POIs inside it. (Also consider marking the area with answered 25 Jan '19, 04:18 Nutchanon We... |
I don't know if there is a standard way to tag future things but this is what I do:
For businesses that have gone away, I change the place to shop=vacant and add a description="Used to be the xyz store, now empty." If/when another business opens in that location then I update everything to the new business and drop anything that refers to the old business (OSM is supposed to be for current data). answered 25 Jan '19, 03:20 n76 3
shop=vacant sells ... vacants? ;-) Not a good tag for a renderer which just renders all shops - but does not know this exception.
(25 Jan '19, 06:35)
aseerel4c26 ♦
Got a point, but I found it in the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dvacant as well as near the bottom of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop
(25 Jan '19, 08:40)
n76
shop=malls don't sell shopping centres either. the disused prefix covers too many eventualities to identify shops which don't CURRENTLY have a tenant. It has the merit of being duck tagging: people actually talk about empty or vacant shops (which is more than I can say for malls). It also assumes the only use case for shop is to find things to buy, which is not the case.
(25 Jan '19, 16:48)
SK53 ♦
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@stf: Both of those places in the wiki also add some words of caution, though, which I agree with. Given how many shop values there are, and how many keep being added, it makes data consumers' work easier if they can just treat all
(25 Jan '19, 17:42)
Tordanik
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@SK53: at least a shop=mall IS a kind of collection of shops. A shop=vacant is not a shop (it is just a place suitable for a shop and looking like a shop) - but would still show up in a simple rendering which just displays all shop=* (see Tordanik). Even the featured humanitarian layer displays a shop=vacant with a shop icon. And iD, too. Duck tagging? It may look like a (closed) shop, but it does not sell like a shop. So, imho it fails the test for a shop. Ducks quack and shops sell. ;-)
(25 Jan '19, 20:15)
aseerel4c26 ♦
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In practice people do all those things. For new stuff I would say mapping the address is a good way to handle it, and then maybe add a note stating when the business is opening (a note on the osm website preferably vs a For a closed business that still has signs and such, I think removing the key tag (probably answered 25 Jan '19, 03:12 maxerickson |
The given answers give excellent advice about how to handle these cases. I'd just like to add that putting a status into the name would be considered very wrong.