I'm trying to add some detailed mapping along a cycle route (the N72 in Newcastle,UK). This route is largely along peaceful designated bike/hiking paths that are away from the busy roads, but in some areas it briefly travels along the pavement/sidewalk by the side of a road.

Ideally I'd like to capture this detail in the tagging, preferably in a way that is useful to the various cycle maps. I've had a go at this section from William Armstrong Drive and along Scotswood Road, which I have currently tagged as follows:

Normal Cycle Path

The section along the waterfront, away from the road, is simply tagged as most cycle paths are:

highway=cycleway
foot=yes

Along the Pavement/Sidewalk

As the route comes up on the pavement alongside William Armstrong Drive and Scotswood Road I've tagged it as:

highway=footway
footway=sidewalk
foot=yes
bicycle=yes

which seems to be about as explicit as I can be.

Crossing the Road

I've also tagged the section where the route crosses the road as:

highway=footway
footway=crossing
cycleway=crossing
foot=yes
bicycle=yes

and drawn that through the highway=crossing node on the road (as recommended here)

So does this approach make any sense?

Logically it seems okay to me, but I'm a bit worried about how it will be interpreted and rendered by existing apps. (Yes I know we should be renderer-agnostic, but I don't want to break a route that used to work correctly).

Incidentally I can't just add a cycleway=track to the way for the road (as suggested in wiki) because unusually the road actually has a cycle lane on it as well (yep, a cycle lane on the road AND a signed shared-use pavement alongside it).

asked 15 Jul '11, 09:56

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This is likely up for debate, so the wiki or the tagging@ mailing list is probably a better place to ask this.

(15 Jul '11, 13:09) JoshD

Thanks @JoshD. I never find anything much gets resolved on the mailing lists :) and I thought if I got some good answers here it might help others in the future (after all how many newbies trawl through all the mailing list archives?)

(15 Jul '11, 14:44) GrahamS

This is a common problem. I think the consensus is that there is no ideal solution at present, but for those seeking help, rather than discussion, the best compromise is to use a separate way, as you describe. Make sure it is joined to the main way at junctions to aid routing.

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answered 15 Jul '11, 23:49

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edited 16 Jul '11, 00:48

Nowadays, for "along the sidewalk", there is the segregated tag.

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answered 08 Feb '14, 20:07

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An alternative way is to have the bike path way merge into the road, then use something like "highway=residential, cycleway=track".

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answered 16 Jul '11, 15:56

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Thanks Stevage, but as I said the road also has a bike lane, so it already has cycleway=lane on the way for the road.

(17 Jul '11, 22:45) GrahamS
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This forum is not meant for discussion. So I am tempted to close this question.

However, to give you a short answer I would like to point out that

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

covers most options were sidewalks and bicycle lanes meet.

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answered 15 Jul '11, 12:44

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I cited that page in the question, but there are problems with the tagging it suggests in this situation. Ref S3 is the closest match, but I can't add cycleway=track to the road as it already has a cycleway=lane. The S3 alternative with multiple ways is good, but it doesn't indicate that these ways are sidewalks which is what I'm trying to achieve.

(15 Jul '11, 14:42) GrahamS

As I said before: this is a help forum and not a forum for discussion. Please use the wiki or the mailing list instead.

(15 Jul '11, 17:24) ALE
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