Hi.

Lots of (Brunei) data here: http://survey.gov.bn/web/survey_department/map

Articles explaining what the portal is about: 1 and 2.

Is it Public Domain, and any and all of it can be used for OSM? Need permission first from the Government? I am really not sure about these things so please help me understand them.

Thanks!

asked 03 Jul '16, 07:40

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Also note the "T&C" you have to accept before you open the portal. Part of it is:

All the information provided on this website is provided on an "as is" and "as available" basis and you agree that you use such information entirely at your own risk.

What about this use?

(03 Jul '16, 14:04) raito
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I am not a lawyer, but...

That just limits the provider's liability. It does not grant you any rights.

(03 Jul '16, 15:06) SomeoneElse ♦

For once simple questions and answers: no & no.

See http://survey.gov.bn/web/survey_department/conditions-of-use as long as these are in force this is completely tabu for OpenStreetMap.

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edited 03 Jul '16, 09:06

OK.

So, the portal is for viewing purposes only? Like using Google maps?

(03 Jul '16, 10:07) raito

You'll need to ask the Government of Brunei what they think their web portal is for. It's clear that you're not allowed to use it in any way (even just to "check things") prior to adding data to OpenStreetMap, just like you can't with Google.

(03 Jul '16, 10:59) SomeoneElse ♦
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@raito according to the T&Cs you are likely not even allowed to look at it ....

(03 Jul '16, 11:05) SimonPoole ♦
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I'm not sure I understand why you say we can't even look at it.. They put the portal up and made it accessible by anyone. They also let reporters write about it in the papers, talking about how it is going to be useful for government agencies, private sectors, and general public. That is so contradicting..

(03 Jul '16, 13:45) raito

Oh.. Don't get the wrong idea that I view Google maps to add data to OSM.. I was saying that this portal is only for ordinary personal use, like the ordinary personal use of Google maps.

(03 Jul '16, 15:20) raito

@raito government administrations screwing up the legal side of things tends to be norm, not the exception. The T&Cs are quite clear, you will need to approach the survey department and point out the contradiction. From the newspaper articles it is not really clear if the information is actually intended to be open Data or at least something in that direction.

(03 Jul '16, 21:47) SimonPoole ♦
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CONDITIONS OF USE http://survey.gov.bn/web/survey_department/conditions-of-use (Link below map)

  1. By continuing to use this site, you are bound by the provisions of Section 5 of the Official Secrets Act.

  2. The Information shall not be taken out from Brunei Darussalam without the surveyor General's prior approval

  3. All rights reserved. This map is acknowledged as Government Copyright. No part of this map may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording or any information storage or retrieval system without prior permission from the Government. Except permitted fair dealing under the Copyright Order 2000.

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answered 04 Jul '16, 13:05

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Ahmmm why are you reposting what I alread linked to in my answer yesterday?

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