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I am hiking along the Via Algarviana in the Algarve and have now crossed three streams on a footpath. The tag "ford" implies an automobile and is rendered as such. So how should it be tagged?

asked 14 Mar '15, 17:34

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edited 14 Mar '15, 21:44

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your question is very similar to highwayford-symbol-shows-car-even-on-highwaypath.

(14 Mar '15, 18:06) aseerel4c26 ♦

I did read the entry but it does not answer the question!

(14 Mar '15, 18:57) dcp

@dcp: see SomeoneElse's answer there ("The second issue").

(14 Mar '15, 20:15) aseerel4c26 ♦
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Note that the recommended tagging is ford=yes (not highway=ford). ford=yes does not show a car icon with the default map style.

(16 Mar '15, 10:09) sleske

A ford is equally valid for foot, fording a river was in use long before cars were invented.

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answered 14 Mar '15, 18:00

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Yes, I know that. However, the renderers show a car: That could encourage someone to try and cross the stream: We don't want that, do we?

(14 Mar '15, 18:51) dcp

DCP, if your worried about the innocent driver, you could add or better add mvh=no and 4wd_only=yes, problem solved !

(14 Mar '15, 19:05) Hendrikklaas
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@dcp I wouldn't worry about how one particular rendering shows a particular tag. That can easily be changed (if appropriate) later. Note that a "non-car" icon was discussed over on the "standard" style's github:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/118

(14 Mar '15, 20:12) SomeoneElse ♦
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@Handrikklaas - what is "mvh=no"? It seems not to be used at all:

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=mvh#keys

(14 Mar '15, 20:12) SomeoneElse ♦
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I still think that something is lacking. Paths crossing streams are quite common and a clearly defined method would be IMHO better than a workaround. Thank you for your comments though: I'll just leave things as they are, i.e. path through water with ford=yes motor_vehicle=no. It will still be rendered wrongly though.

(14 Mar '15, 20:13) dcp
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@dcp: yes, that icon is wrong. Please still add the data correctly (path and ford) and ask the relevant map creator to change the icon. It is not a problem of the data but only of the map rendering.

(14 Mar '15, 20:17) aseerel4c26 ♦

@sorry motor_vehicle=no, obvious.

(15 Mar '15, 13:03) Hendrikklaas
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