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The OSM help wiki page on Mapnik states: How exactly does Mapnik integrates with PostGIS? To me saying "Mapnik can read PostGIS" is kind of like saying "Wordpress can read MySQL". Obviously Wordpress is heavily reliant on a given schema existing within that database. So what are the rules? What is Mapnik expecting to find / what must the PostGIS provide? |
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It means what it says. Mapnik can connect to a PostGIS database, and then read the data from that. Within your mapnik style file, you specify the schema you want (connect to this table, the geometry column is called OK fair. I just need some good examples of Mapnik style file talking to PostGIS. There does not seem to be any in the OSM wiki. Right now I'm in the process of pulling some packages from ppa:kakrueger/openstreetmap repo so I can check out the style files that are apparently in there. Should be what I need.
(29 Jan '15, 19:54)
mapgenius323
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The following styles have or produce mapnik Stylesheets which communicate with postgis / postgres databases (I have most of them up and running at my local server). Maybe this is what you want to find actually: OSM: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto German OSM: https://github.com/woodpeck/openstreetmap-carto-german OSMBright: https://github.com/mapbox/osm-bright/ OSMNight: https://github.com/cybercomsweden/osm-night SwissStyle: https://github.com/xyztobixyz/OSM-Swiss-Style Cassini: https://github.com/frodrigo/osm-cassini-carto Blossom: https://github.com/stekhn/blossom
(29 Jan '15, 20:38)
nordie69
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@nordie69 Great links thx. The first one is good for me. I didn't realise OSM now uses CartoCSS for styling (whatever that is). Also lead to https://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/subversion/applications/rendering/mapnik/osm.xml which appears to be the old XML style sheet (+4000 lines, holy crap!). This XML also declares a bunch of Layers towards the end.
(30 Jan '15, 08:23)
mapgenius323
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the current style is written in CartoCSS (which is a 'nicer' way to write mapnik style files). It's then converted into mapnik XML with the
(30 Jan '15, 09:04)
rorym
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@mapgenius323: "I didn't realise OSM now uses CartoCSS" – you really should just read the Mapnik wiki page. It is mentioned there (prominently in the intro section). You may find other interesting bits on that page.
(30 Jan '15, 13:53)
aseerel4c26 ♦
@aseerel4c26 I did read that page. I missed that though. I disagree that that is prominent. I find the entire OSM wiki a muddle, but that is my personal opinion, and I am still grateful for its existence of course.
(30 Jan '15, 21:53)
mapgenius323
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Examining OSM's Mapnik style sheet is the best way to get a feeling for how Mapnik integrates with a Postgres/PostGIS database. This is available at https://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/subversion/applications/rendering/mapnik/osm.xml. Note that OSM now specifies its style in CartoCSS, but these CartoCSS style sheets are still compiled into Mapnik XML style sheets. Also see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto for more info on CartoCSS. Basically, Mapnik has an abstraction layer, with drivers for each type of data source ("layer"). These drivers read geometric data in some specific external format in to some internal format used by Mapnik. This internal format geometric data eventually finds its way to symbolizers and onto a canvas via way of "styles", which get attached to each layer. The PostGIS driver requires you to specify a SQL query that returns a table of data. That table must contain a column called "way" of PostGIS type "geometry". The table may contain arbitrary other columns. These other columns can be used to support rendering (how they can be used I don't know yet). But in most cases all that is needed for a symbolizer to render something is the way column. Layers also need a database connection configuration. The following link shows a complete and working, but very basic Mapnik style sheet with a PostGIS layer - http://pastebin.com/1spMSvA8 P.S. Thanks for help from commenters above. Please feel free to add to or expand on this answer. |
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What about the section Data Sources → PostGIS? Essentially, Mapnik does not care about your database schema as long as you can provide suitable SQL queries that will extract the data for each layer you want to define. The query you provide will be augmented with a bounding box condition by Mapnik, and other than a geometry it only needs to return those column you expect to use in the styling rules that you have written. So the only advantage of having the data in PostGIS is speed and some convenience GIS function? I could essentially have any SQL server and write arbitrary queries in a Mapnik style file?
(29 Jan '15, 06:39)
mapgenius323
"... and other than a geometry ..." Could you please elaborate on this. I think this is what I'm getting at.
(29 Jan '15, 06:41)
mapgenius323
"What about the section Data Sources → PostGIS?". I did not find that very helpful.
(29 Jan '15, 06:43)
mapgenius323
@mapgenius323: it is not "very" helpful, yes. But more than the cited part of the intro.
(29 Jan '15, 12:50)
aseerel4c26 ♦
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What problem are you trying to solve? Perhaps it might be better to provide a more specific example so that people can provide more specific answers.
Is the question that you're trying to ask actually "do I have to use PostGIS, or can I use a different database instead?"
No, I'm not trying to ask that question. I definitely want to at least get a handle on using the PostGIS backend with Mapnik. The problem I'm trying to solve is understanding PostGIS and Mapnik integration in general.