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What is the best way to map ATMs that are inside shops and consequentially only accessible during the shops opening hours? Is it better to tag them with the shop eg shop=convenience, atm=yes, fee=yes or separately eg amenity=atm, fee=yes, note=atm is in shop I don't know all the shop opening hours |
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You can tag either the whole building (shop=convenience atm=yes) or a separate node (amenity=atm).
Also, don't tag fee=yes unless you need to pay just to get access to the atm. In my region you can use the atm without paying the shopkeeper, I imagine that's the usual case. Atm transaction fees are a different thing altogether, and would be very complicated to map. Fee=yes is a very important tag. Most ATMs are operated by the banks and are free to use, but those that are privately operated, as opposed to owned by banks, often charge. Whilst including the actual fee is complicated as this will change, suggesting that we leave out the information a map user requires to avoid these machines is vital. Are you perhaps confusing bank charges here?
(16 May '14, 23:10)
trigpoint
ATM usage fees seem to be a regional thing, some countries don't have any.
(17 May '14, 08:55)
scai ♦
ATM fees depend on the combination of the ATM operator, whether you're abroad and where, your card operator, and the options subscribed on your bank account. There's just no way it can be mapped reliably in OSM.
(17 May '14, 13:00)
Vincent de P... ♦
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Some ATMs always have a fee; it's possible to accurately say fee=yes for those.
(17 May '14, 13:17)
SomeoneElse ♦
Charges for for using your card abroad are bank charges, not ATM fees. Certainly in the UK some ATMs, often those in small shops and pubs charge a fee to use them. Often GBP 1.75 or 2.50. These can certainly be mapped accurately in OSM. In these cases the request to your bank has the fee added, to your request. Personally I would never use an ATM that charges, and certainly want to be able to select a free one and not waste time walking into a shop to find the charge and to then walk out again. And if I find one tag it so others don't waste their time too.
(18 May '14, 01:39)
trigpoint
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I have tagged them by:
I suppose putting a note saying "atm is in shop" would be useful too but the only time I've done that is when the building is so new that I don't have OSM compatible satellite imagery to trace the outline. In that case I have two nodes side by side. One for the shop and the second for the atm with a note tag on the atm saying it is in the shop. For what it is worth, I do the same thing as tagging for an atm as I do for tagging things like a Starbucks inside a grocery store. |
