I’ve read the help pages about the Open Database License on the OSM wiki several times, but I’m still not sure I understand it.

Assume I want to produce a map of the world like that using OSM data. I will need to extract the relevant data (coastlines, names and boundaries of countries) from OSM, simplify the polygons to have something not too big and then generate the SVG.

What are the legal requirements for the final SVG map? Can I release it into in the public domain or do I need to release it under the ODbL?

My current understanding is that I can release the SVG into the public domain (it’s the Produced Work) but that the data used just before generating the SVG (i.e. the simplified boundaries) has to be released under the ODbL (it’s the Derivative Database). That would a bit strange, because once the SVG is in the public domain it’s easy to lose track of the database used to generate it (so it’s basically useless to have it under the ODbL), so maybe I misunderstood it.

asked 23 Jul '13, 23:03

Fractal's gravatar image

Fractal
76336
accept rate: 0%

1

Also, the simplified boundaries can easily be extracted from the SVG map, so it’s a bit strange if the SVG can be in the public domain.

(23 Jul '13, 23:10) Fractal

You will not get binding legal advice from anyone unless you hire a lawyer, but I'll try and summarise past discussions from the legal-talk mailing list for you:

  1. Yes, the polygons can be reverse-engineered from the SVG, however you would thereby create a database again to which ODbL would apply even if the SVG wasn't under ODbL. The database rights persist even when the data is transported through a differently licensend channel. This is comparable to something like patents - where you can have a description of a process where the description is in the public domain, but if you want to execute it you might have to apply for a license from the patent holder.

  2. You would probably be expected to share the raw, simplified polygons (which are a database derived from OSM) under the ODbL.

  3. You can choose any license for your produced work but you have to attribute OSM. The exact wording is that: You must include a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database; some interpretations conclude from this that not only do you have to attribute OSM, but you also have to make sure that if your work is again modified, used, or passed on, everyone down the line must be made aware of the data provenance, and hence the license chosen must at least have a persistent attribution clause, making PD unsuitable.

This is just opinions from a bunch of interested people on the mailing list; not legal advice.

permanent link

answered 24 Jul '13, 08:10

Frederik%20Ramm's gravatar image

Frederik Ramm ♦
73.3k866641137
accept rate: 24%

[I'm not a lawyer and have not read the legal document for this scenario.]

Based on their FAQ, Produced Work does not require the same license.

However, you are required to provide attribution (credit) to OSM which is also specified in the form "© OpenStreetMap contributors." This is an odd requirement as it says to give credit to OSM a copyright to OSM must be attached. I suppose that does not specify a license; your produced work will not be under ODbL or Creative Commons (unless you put it there, and if we believe the FAQ).

permanent link

answered 24 Jul '13, 07:53

he_the_great's gravatar image

he_the_great
1.2k61423
accept rate: 14%

Your answer
toggle preview

Follow this question

By Email:

Once you sign in you will be able to subscribe for any updates here

By RSS:

Answers

Answers and Comments

Markdown Basics

  • *italic* or _italic_
  • **bold** or __bold__
  • link:[text](http://url.com/ "title")
  • image?![alt text](/path/img.jpg "title")
  • numbered list: 1. Foo 2. Bar
  • to add a line break simply add two spaces to where you would like the new line to be.
  • basic HTML tags are also supported

Question tags:

×141
×61

question asked: 23 Jul '13, 23:03

question was seen: 2,438 times

last updated: 24 Jul '13, 08:10

powered by OSQA