Hello, I am building Garmin map of Greenland with contour using OSM data and data from http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/ for creating contours. Screenshot: Jonathan de Ferranti (creator of this excellent contours data source) is convinced that his data are right and discrepancies seen on map are caused by placement errors in the OSM coastline data. How can I check accuracy of OSM coastline data in this area and possibly fix it? Many thanks for help. mira asked 31 Oct '12, 22:46 miramikes |
For checking the placement accuracy of the osm-data I would suggest to compare your contour data at a location, that is well mapped, has some gps-tracks and high-res Bing coverage, e.g. here. It is indeed well possible that large amounts of greenlands coastline data in osm has some accuracy issues, since it is imported from pgs. Fixing it will require quite some work. Where Bing and gps-tracks are available you may use this source. If the license of viewfinderpanoramas is compliant with osm's odbl (which I do not know) you may use this as a source as well. Otherwise you may take your gps, a really warm down jacket and head out for a long, long walk on the coast... answered 01 Nov '12, 08:36 FischersFritz Yes I did check other places too and 95% of Grenland map is totally fine for me. Problems start from 81°N and going more to the north are worse.
(02 Nov '12, 11:30)
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The imagery Bing has of the region in question is quite poor (as it is on Google, too). The Landsat imagery doesn't even reach to this latitude. But the OSM coastlines too have note=may be inaccurate on them. An other issue is the projection. With my little understanding I can just tell that the Google Mercator projection distorts land masses when it comes close to the poles. It could be possible that the the contour lines are projected with some other parameters then OSM. So it could be that a comparison more southwards cannot tell you if it is in the north just as good. But that's just me; I hope some people more familiar with that issue can say something. A comparison of OSM and that contour lines on the Islands south of Cape Horn would be interesting, too answered 02 Nov '12, 02:37 malenki I there will be somebody who has a skills to fix this kind of issue I can provide same "test map" for southern areas close to south pole too.
(02 Nov '12, 11:36)
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I've just found this thread where somebody fixed coastline by using contour data. I think I could manage to provide data where will be just 0m contour for given area which should be actually coastline. Not sure how to convert to "pseudo-gps-track" and how to use the for fixing OSM data. mira answered 02 Nov '12, 11:50 miramikes Screenshot of coastline (0m contour) Would be possible to use "0m contour" for fixing OSM coastline? mira
(02 Nov '12, 17:09)
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Just a note: viewfinderpanorama contours are very unlikely to be a suitable data source for OSM. The data is gathered from a wide variety of sources, many of which are probably copyrighted (e.g. former Soviet maps which are based on other topo maps).
(18 Dec '14, 20:27)
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Hi, I am not a lawyer, but I am not sure if manually convert paper maps to digital data is illegal. mira
(20 Dec '14, 13:15)
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hey mira, did you manage to sucessfully create that map? i would be interested in it. could you share it? thankyou
Hey xox,
I build this map 2 years ago and there were a lot of updates since in OSM data that time. For e.g. problem described in this thread has been fixed ;) Also some improvements has been done in contour data. In other words it would be good to build this map again with fresh data. BTW if I remember well my Greenland map with contours has been about 1.3 GB. If you want do it yourself you can use my "styles" if you wish. In README file you will find simple "how-to" https://github.com/miramikes/garmin_hiking_map
regards
mira
thank you, i already tried it before, but failed. with your instructions, styles and data there is hope! i'll play around with it in the next days… merry christmas!
hey xox, if there will some problem have look in OSM Garmin forum. http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=26 I have learned everything about Garmin maps there myself ... many helpful people there and more appropriate place to discus Garmin related topics. merry christmas ;)